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I called and talked with one of the Center's administrative assistants, and he directed me the CSCS peoples page.

 

I am looking for those who are interested in extending FROM Hilbert mathematics into ontology based models of complex system.

 

I am attaching two documents which if you have time to review we would be appreciative.

 

 

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hello,

 

This is not an area I know much about, so I

don't know any specific people you could contact at UM.

I would suggest you contact some faculty

in the School of Information.

    http://www.si.umich.edu/

good luck,

-              r

 

Discussion:

 

This "area" is the potential use of machine encoded ontology as a model of complex systems.

 

We are puzzled by this response.  But we have received exactly this response (as a behavioral pattern) 40 or 50 times over the past few years.  It does not fail to not puzzle me.  And we should not be looking for luck, but a principled review of the technology and the science that is argued. 

 

Why is this difficult to find?

 

Why is this so hard to get concepts communicated about what might be a future development in complex systems research? 

 

It is, you know.  And it is difficult because academic people point to someone else and say that this advise to go elsewhere might be helpful.  It generally is not.  Certainly information science is not the domain where the incumbents will be willing to talk, as they are firmly committed to the first school. 

 

Do you mind the discussion or mind spending the time on a discussion?  My conjecture, and the conjecture of others, is that the academy is not open to this specific extension of formalism, from Hilbert mathematics to computational semiotics.  This non-openness is also part of our peer review issue in funding alternatives to AI.    (We have gathered together a long documented history of a narrowness in peer review decisions - involving anything that is not completely consistent with strict scientific reductionism.)

 

A discussion about this is being developed (again) in the bead thread at:

 

http://www.bcngroup.org/beadgames/generativeMethodology/46.htm

 

We invite comments that can be posted as a continuation of this recorded discussion.

 

 

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